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June 29, 2005

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patriot actor

Tom Tom Tom ...

The Congressional Joint Inquiry Report on 9/11 - not the Post, not the Times, not Fox, not CNN - found no connection between Saddam and 9/11. Can we please get past this inferred point that Saddam had anything to do with the terrorists on board those planes? Any argument that you make against the "liberal" media and the Dems sounds hollow when you make reference to a connection that doesn't exist.

Bush's 2 basic tenets for going to war - WMDs and Saddam's terrorists connections - were b.s. That has been made abundantly clear. However, the attempt to use miltiary force in place of diplomacy as a means to change the political landscape in the Middle East was the clear purpose of invading Iraq. Dems have historically always had an issue with using the military to further change, unless it was of a last resort. That is the contention with GW; that he was so eager to use the miltary i/o using the international diplomatic community to pressure change. GW will argue that diplomacy had been exhausted and that the global landscape underwent a major shift as a result of 9/11 - a completely valid point supporting his argument for military invasion of Iraq (as opposed to the cockamamie WMD/terrorist b.s. he tried to feed to the UN.) Tho Dems don't necessarily agree with this argument, they do however respect it.

What they don't respect, however, is the "after the invasion" phase of this war - part of the Powell Doctrine mantra that if you break it you own it. It seems that not only were the justifications of the war a farce (at least the publicly stated ones) but the afterplan has been so flawed and so wrongly ad-hocced since Baghdad was taken that the president's credibility for future plans is severely called into question. Not only does a bogged down miltary effort cost billions and billions of dollars, it also compromises the US' global security if further situations were to arise elsewhere on the globe.

If he was going to use "the last resort" nature of military force, you would have thought the military plans would have been a lot more comprehensive and thoroughly explored rather than what has been now been made whoefully apparent.

Tom Bowler

Even George Bush said there was no evidence to connect Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks. Kind of a straw man argument to keep bring up that business of no connection to 9/11. That said, I can see that my wording is confusing. I should be saying Saddam had a "connection to terrorism". Saying there is "connection to the terrorists" can easily be taken to mean "connection to the 9/11 hijackers". That is not what I mean.

Saddam harbored terrorists. Zarqawi fled Afghanistan and got medical care in Baghdad. Saddam's murder of Abu Nidal pretty clearly indicates that he thought he could control the terrorists and use them at his convenience. But just as Saddam's connection to terrorism does not mean he was connected to 9/11, the fact that he was not connected to 9/11 does not mean he was not connected to terrorism.

Iraq was a known safe haven for terrorists. To suggest that there was no danger from Iraq with its history of using WMD and harboring terrorists is naive and unrealistic, even in hindsight. The great and wonderful Bill Clinton was surprised that WMD were not found in Iraq, so it's not at all farfetched to think Saddam had them.

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