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April 18, 2006

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ny patriot

You do this all the time. Instead of focusing on the message about Rumsfeld's ineptness, you focus on the messenger. As if this changes the message! It is widely accepted that the invasion plans for Iraq were ill-suited for a prolonged and protracted occupation. There were an insufficient number of troops put on the ground to maintainorder and an easier transition to a self-sustaing Iraqi republic. It is also widely agreed that prior to and just after the invasion, their were strong rumblings out of the Pentagon that they were being left out of the loop in the planning and subsequent occup[ying of Iraq. Of course this would some day lead to outspokeness on the part of generals and high level civilians in the DOD.

Yes the Post and the Times are taking a very pre-sumptive stance now and reveling in the quotes that back up their own views of "I told you so" and they are more than happy to quote retired nay-sayers who support their view. But the fact remains that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz badly planned this occupation and it can be intuitively assumed that they do not have a firm grip on how to either a) carry out this continued occupation for God knows how long or b) how to cut and run.

Sure does sound like McNamara/Vietnam now doesn't it? You don't think so? Then you lose every argument.

Tom Bowler

You make the arguments that you are easily said in hindsight, and even then you get them wrong. After all the complaints that there were not enough troops, the rap against Rumsfeld changed to be that there were too many troops. With so many American troops the Iraqi army was said to be discouraged from stepping up and taking over. Next we'll be hearing there aren't enough to handle the Shia militias, and then in a few months there will be too many again. As for the Post and the Times, they'll be quoting nay sayers whatever the nay sayers say. It doesn't matter, as long as it's in opposition to the Administration.

Regarding Rumsfeld's competence, the General DeLong disagrees with you, saying, ...he's very effective. He's very competent... If your outspoken generals are such shrinking violets that they have to wait for retirement to speak their views up the chain of command, then I'm delighted it's they who have retired rather than Rumsfeld.

And no, this does not sound like McNamara and Vietnam. Like Korean War Vets, Vietnam Vets were put into the extremely difficult and unfortunate situation where they were asked to fight a defensive battle. They were not allowed to take the fight into North Vietnam into the enemy's territory. McNamara pissed away American lives fighting for the status quo instead of fighting to defeat the enemy and win the war. But I'm surprised that you speak disparagingly of McNamara. Isn't his strategy the one you would like to see adopted?

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