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February 16, 2011

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BNewYork

I think the most powerful Conservative argument to make to the American people is that the overwhelming majority of liberals in the House and Senate gave Bush a blank check on Iraq -- including our current Secretary of State.

At minimum, the Democrat Party is just as incompetent -- and actually quite a bit more.

The Democrats completely misunderstood the threat posed by the Soviet Union -- the most serious threat to the West in the past century.

Comparing all of the Middle East threats including Saddam Hussein to the Soviet Union is like comparing a mosquito to an elephant.

The democrats opposed funding of the Contras -- a policy we now know yielded positive results for us. They opposed Gulf War I -- an operation that restored stability.

Some of us would note, as I did above, that they gave Bush a blank check -- wrong again.

Some of us would argue, therefore, that the Democrats are at leas as incompetent, and actually more incompetent than Republicans.

It is a much more powerful argument than trying to claim Bush knew what he was doing ad nauseum.

He clearly did not.

Tom Bowler

Can't say I agree with all of your arguments. The fact is that Bush knew enough to realize that Saddam Hussein was a threat we would eventually have to deal with, and that it would be better to deal with him on our timetable rather than his. I would not argue that incompetence was what drove Democrats to switch from supporting the action to opposing it.

Democrats became quite comfortable with having America lose the war, since it appeared they would gain political advantage. It worked for them as long as they had Bush to vilify. But when Obama became president it became apparent that losing wars in either Iraq or Afghanistan would damage the Democrats politically. So they switched sides again, and we found them favoring a surge in Afghanistan after opposing a surge in Iraq. No. Incompetent is not the word that describes them.

BNewYork

A valid point on why they switched.

Having said that, I think incompetence describes Democrats on foreign affairs.

That certainly doesn't mean, as you point out, that they can't be opportunists as well.

And I think certain Republicans gave them far more opportunity than they deserved by making key mistakes on Iraq.

The left likes to use defeatist language. For example, if there are civil wars within Iraq's borders we "lose." This is nonsense. But a lot of Republicans seemed to play into their hands.

The United States did not "break" anything in Iraq because Iraq was never "fixed." It was artificially created after World War I. So if you remove the dictator holding it together, you are going to have conflict.

If Hussein had fallen after Gulf War I, we would not have gotten involved in internal matters. Food aid, ways to lessen conflict -- of course.

But thinking you can create nation states for other peoples is classic leftist thinking.

In addition, Bush and other leftists have always been totally oblivious in distinguishing Parliaments that represent property owners from Parliaments that do not. And so they have no understanding about the drastically different outcomes that result from elections in those two situations.

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